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		<title>Beware the Seductress</title>
		<description>Discuss Beware the Seductress</description>
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			<title>watchman says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-3046</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I have been 2 years in Arab countries and listened a lot. Wilma writes with the same intonation of an Muslim man preach hatred against Christ and his church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>watchman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 05:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>wilma says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-3045</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Single Ladies beware of the devil- the church preacher, deacons are your enemy. The devil within the church walls is of no surprise to me, you see many of our helpless women are driven to church in search of a husband or father for their kids and some type of stability. These women fail to realize that many of our problems happen when we go to a church to seek comfort, we receive more than what we ask. If you take a survey of every church you will find that the women outnumber the man, my opinion, women are the ones supporting the preachers, and the churches with their tithes and offerings. That is why some preachers will tell the single women in the church to not go out to seek that man just yet, because it will stop his flow of the money in the church. Once a woman finds a man, they generally will not come to church as often. There are many things I have come to notice when we women go to church, now I am actually talking to the single women of the church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>wilma</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 05:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>wilma says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-3044</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Single Ladies beware of the devil- the church preacher, deacons are your enemy. The devil within the church walls is of no surprise to me, you see many of our helpless women are driven to church in search of a husband or father for their kids and some type of stability. These women fail to realize that many of our problems happen when we go to a church to seek comfort, we receive more than what we ask. If you take a survey of every church you will find that the women outnumber the man, my opinion, women are the ones supporting the preachers, and the churches with their tithes and offerings. That is why some preachers will tell the single women in the church to not go out to seek that man just yet, because it will stop his flow of the money in the church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>wilma</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>antonio says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2834</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It happened to me 7 years ago. I kept on thinking about hanging me up. The death. This kinf of woman creates an adiction that even if you admit you are not in love with them, when you have a sexual intercourse you get trapped. I spent a lot of money with psychiatrist and pills. All this came because my relationship wit my actual pertner is not good, I did not feel loved. Nowadays I do not feel loved anyway but I learned to be alert. Always the same: she tells you the atracctive you are, you are perfect, sex is explosive, very stimulatig. Then when you relized all this was a fantasy, you are in love, sex adicted, and when you leave her you feel death.TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. A monster. just that.. a narcicistic monster. beware when you find an easy woman. It happens in Caracas, Venezuela.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>antonio</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Hannah says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2826</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Even as a woman, I can appreciate this article. I'm puzzled by the comments made re: pastors & counseling... not that it doesn't happen (and not to say there aren't devastating results of that), but that's not the focus of this article. I think this is a great breakdown of Proverbs chapter 7 and it's helpful to hear it explained from a man's perspective (I'm married). If anyone feels this article blames women, if you read the full passage in scripture, God is the one who labels the seductress a "she"... As a woman, when I read this passage, I see the seductress as a representation of any tempting sin in my life. The seductress is a metaphor to how Satan operates proactively to lead us to fall.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>maggie may says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2808</link>
			<description><![CDATA[many women are like this because of a man who hurt them--many a predatory woman was once a trusting wife]]></description>
			<dc:creator>maggie may</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ricardon says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2478</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I was asked once "what do you think you provide?". when someone is "counselled" what is it they are asking for? Everyone knows the wrong they do is wrong. somehow we all understand that. So what is the counselling for? Trumpeting on about sin and the Devil , hell and damnation and the evil nature hidden in us all. Do these things help? "go your way" Jesus once said, "your faith has made you whole". Wholeness is the gift of Christ. It is what makes Him the messiah. The gift of release to believe. The release to regain yourself. "take up your bed and walk". there is no more condemnation in Christ Jesus. If you hold someone in condemnation for past sins then you are anti-Christ. Not Christ. If you are a Christian, "a little Christ" then through you The Christ will say to the world "stretch forth your hand and be whole". He does not condemn you. He does not condemn the seductress he does not condemn the woman caught in adultery , he does not condemn.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ricardon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Shannon says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2477</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm shocked at these comments. You lack wisdom and understanding. The word of God stirred up oh satin. One is accountable for their sin. Some women are like this because men have caused this in their childhood. Some learn it by watching their mothers. Men can also be wolves in sheeps clothing. Satin is behind all of these. All people have to come to the repentance of their sins. Darkness will come to the light. What darkness are you trying to hide that causes you to act so foolish? Correct and do not critisize. Clean your closet out of the things don't belong in their. Then you can see the whole truth.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ricardon says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2446</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris C, not many will support or understand what u have written. I failed in the same way and with similar devastating consequences. God does not hate you. Jesus has not cast you out of the ministry. You have a place in God. The the gift of Christ to the world was forgiveness not perfection. Our society teaches judgement and punishment. Christ taught acceptance and healing. Today I work alone under Christ a minister to the lost.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ricardon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Linda G.Maue says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2352</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It has been over 10 years since my then pastor suggested I come to see him for counseling--and then proceeded to cross his professional boundaries to sexually abuse and exploit me. Note I say HIS boundaries as I have come to learn that it is the job of the professional in a position of power and authority to keep a professional relationship from becoming sexual. .HIS job--not the job of someone seeking help. That is what he is paid for--to be SAFE!!!!! A pastor--a church--is supposed to be a safe place for all God's children. Since I have come to know that this pastard crossed professional boundaries with numerous women during the course of his "ministry". Is this "ministry" suggesting that all the women who he abused and exploited were evil and out to "get him"? These pastards should do jail time for rape and then need to register as sex offenders. Criminalization of clergy sexual abuse should not be limited to just a few states. It should be nationwide.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Linda G.Maue</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Wayne &amp; Geri Stowman says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2173</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Attitudes similar to those expressed in this article are what drove Minnesota, Texas, and several other states to criminalize sexual contact between clergy and people under their pastoral care. (Consent is not a defense.) When Minnesota criminalized clergy/counselee sexual contact in 1985, church leaders supported the legislation. They were gratified to learn how well clergy (male and female) could control their lustful urges when man’s law linked their sexual contact with counselees to a prison sentence. (Counselors, including clergy, are always 100 percent responsible for preserving boundaries in professional relationships—even if the counselee wears a sophisticated suit or bright exercise outfit!) What a pity that some leaders fear man’s law more than God’s directives. If you want a HELPFUL resource on this topic, read Dr. Nils Friberg’s book, “Before the Fall: Preventing Pastoral Sexual Abuse.” Dr. Friberg is a retired seminary professor from Bethel University (Minnesota).]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Wayne &amp; Geri Stowman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>amber says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-2081</link>
			<description><![CDATA[although... this has a lot of really useful information for guys.. thanks for posting it. didn't mean to be critical.. i just feel like sometimes men blame the woman as if she pulled some kind of voodoo and he had no choice in the matter. :-?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>amber says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[gee.. i love how it's all her fault. those who teach are held to an even higher standard you know. you are responsible for your own sin, and her hers. take responsibility. beware of pastors who want to counsel you if you are a woman!!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Balding Eagle says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-1606</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I love the lack of compassion shown in Larry K's comments. (not really) They reflect the words of a coward, who hides behind the anonymity of his keyboard and says great swelling things. Shall we pray that you are tempted deeply and repeatedly until you also fall? then shall we cast stones at you for falling? Go back to your hole Larry and find some other way to masturbate your small esteem than to cast stones at a fallen member of the family...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Balding Eagle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Larry K says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-1602</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Oh, poor you. How could you be providing pastoral care to this woman and then get involved - even if only once. You did take advantage of someone seeking your help-even if she seduced her. You betrayed your role as pastor, your church and family. You went against everything decent when you, the one who was supposed to council, did the very thing with a congregant seeking help, that you council against. How can you be trusted to council again? too much is at stake to allow it-the Christian walk of another person is often in your hands. Try to accept your sin and stop mimimizing it and blaming the other person for your sin. What a whiner!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Larry K</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chris C says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-leadership/counseling/8447-beware-the-seductress#comment-1578</link>
			<description><![CDATA[In my 23 years in ministry, about 3 years ago, I was hit by a lady who was under my pastoral care. She was new and came to the church where I am pastoring. I was providing pastoral care to her. She called for counseling and for other things regularly. I have to provide as a pastor. Emotionally I got emotionally involved into her problems. One day she invited me out and like you quote Proverb 7, I went out with her only once and that is the end of it. It totally destroyed my life and ministry that the Lord called me to. She waited for 8 mths later to complained to the church that I went out with her and took advantage of her. Since she cannot get anything out from me she accused me and the church that i was serving in choose to believe her who been in the church for a very short time. i was serving as a pastor in that church for 12 years and I have to leave the ministry. because of one mistake. Beware of the danger in ministering to women. Let your wife know about it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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