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		<title>Scholar Forced Out of Seminary for Evolution View</title>
		<description>Discuss Scholar Forced Out of Seminary for Evolution View</description>
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			<title>Conrade says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1909</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, Your title of the article sounds provocative, (bordering on misinformation) as if RTS has forced Dr Waltke to leave. I think it is important to state what the facts are. 1) Dr Waltke offered to resign 2) RTS reluctantly accepted. 3) Both Waltke and RTS has defended each other, and has departed amicably. 4) They made a press release to correct information. Personally, I feel we need to take what they say and leave it as that. For more, read my reflections here. (http://is.gd/bGiAN)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Conrade</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Douglas Olena says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1907</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Even though ID has some scientifically testable theories, it harms itself as science and forbids any wide adoption by scientists by its political and educational association with young earth creationism. The appeal to any conflict model engendered by the so-called humanists is what is outdated, not the evolutionary model, and when I say evolutionary model, I am not talking about any explicit Darwinian version, even though the broad outlines of it are useful markers. Let's not pretend that there is some sort of wide consensus in either the scientific or religious community about what constitutes evolution. When challenged, I am sure that the numerous versions of evolutionary theory held by leading scientists will defy any substantial solidarity, except in the broad outlines. There is too much we still do not know. The religious community in general knows very little about Darwinism. Very few have read Darwin and what they do know is more a caricature than any substantial consideration.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Douglas Olena</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>B.Fleming says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1906</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Even though RTS would have found this a difficult exercise I am pleased to see a Seminary that stands for both Biblical and scientific evidence. I think that by now the term science vs Creation is now better termed science vs evolutionary theory which is evidenced by the many non-Christians who are adopting ID over the old evolutionary model. It seems that many within the secular scientific community are relieved that the secularists have developed the ID model which has allowed them to throw away the rather antiquated theory of evolution; even though it is not Creationism it at least acknowledges modern scientific evidence. As for a renowned OT scholar adopting this outdated humanist theory the mind simply boggles.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>B.Fleming</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Douglas Olena says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1895</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Jim, As you might understand I make no commitment to darwinian evolution. No scientist these days does either. Darwin knew much less than we do today. To allow the atheist to demarcate the lines of this debate by requiring that any commitment to Darwinism be in addition a commitment to atheism is uninformed. Many of us in the faith, especially those of the American Scientific Affiliation think that as inadequate as the evolutionary story is today, it is still the best available. To challenge this is to commit to an anachronistic theory of biblical interpretation that requires the bible to be taken as 20th century science, and 20th century history. The parallelism of Genesis 1 and the anachronistic cosmology of Gen 2 should be enough to scare the scientifically conscious away from reading that text that way. In addition, just because Darwin thought evolution precluded God, doesn't mean it is so. Should the atheist determine the debate parameters? I don't think so.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Douglas Olena</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>James Hernando says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1894</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I am concerned with those who see no contradiction between a biblically informed Christian faith and Darwinian Evolution. I am fairly certain that commitment to the latter (materialistic naturalism) makes belief in God unsustainable and certainly the creation account untenable. Interestingly, a recent local debate I attended between theists and atheists supports that view. Every one on the atheist panel was philosophically and scientifically committed to naturalistic evolution. They would laugh at the notion of a theistic evolutionist. Moreover, it is inaccurate to portray those who support creationism as ignorant uninformed creedalists who are stuck in a 19th century cosmology. I suggest you read some of the works and credits of those interviewed by Strobel in A Case for Creation.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>James Hernando</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Douglas Olena says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1892</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Anyone who wishes to make an effort finding a better theory than evolution is welcome to try, but brute facts must be resolved, not knee-jerk dogmatisms.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Douglas Olena</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Douglas Olena says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1891</link>
			<description><![CDATA[As long as the church is satisfied with a 19th century cosmology, this expulsion should not come as a surprise. When we chose solidarity on such themes, we shame the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth. Remember Genesis does not tell us how God created, but only that he did so. Though Darwinian evolution and its more recently evolved children are an inadequate story of how we came to be here, it is still the best story we have, and it doesn't deny our faith. Sorry that the truth isn't enough for the seminary. Sorry that Prof. Waltke had to fall on his sword rather than deny the truth. This is just one more sign that the Church needs to wake from its 150 year slumber and start researching again.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Douglas Olena</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Wale Olasoji says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1884</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If we do not stand for anything, we will fall for everything. While we are not supposed to be legalistic in areas where the bible is not emphatic, we sure need to take our stand on areas that touch on the basis of our faith such as God being the Creator from Who we all came.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Wale Olasoji</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ellie Merritt says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1873</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank God for a seminary which will take a stand to defend its doctrinal positions. Darwinian evolution is itself cult-like with followers who still believe an unproved theory after many years of trial and error. Darwinists defend the indefensible as they attempt to erase God from creation. Another article in this magazine is about people who do not attend church and their reasons for being 'unchurched'. One major reason is that churches no longer take a doctrinal stand lest they offend. Blessings and growth to RST, and may they ever keep the faith.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ellie Merritt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Desire Rusovsky says:</title>
			<link>http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/18880-scholar-forced-out-of-seminary-for-evolution-view#comment-1870</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It's really sad to expell an excellent professor for a thing like this. I'ts really a cultlike reaction from this seminary.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Desire Rusovsky</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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